Rush Limbaugh seems to think that Independents and moderates are essentially the same.
Here is what he recently stated from two of his radio shows:
After doing that, then they'd have to moderate a bit in directions away
from the base to pick up, say, the precious independents and moderates.
Now if you've listened to me regularly, you know that I think this is a
giant trick or trap that has been played on Republicans for I don't
know how long, because what it in effect did was create Republican
candidacies which were designed to appeal to only 20% of the electorate,
while the Democrats were out running candidacies aiming at everybody,
as many people as they could.
...
"You need me because I am uniquely qualified, I'm uniquely capable, I'm
uniquely talented to show independents why you're the man. So a
candidate would be presented with a campaign that took the base for
granted, and it was aimed at independents (i.e., moderates) or even
liberals. Is it any wonder Republican candidates would lose in that
scenario, because what happened is, the base was taken for granted, and
as is the case in 2012, four million of 'em stayed home and didn't vote
for Romney.
I don't know if it's because they were angry at being taken for
granted and decided to teach a lesson, or if they were just unenthused
by the Romney candidacy. It could have been a combination of many
things. But the bottom line is, four million members of the Republican
base didn't vote. It didn't matter. Romney did win the independents.
Do you remember this? In 2012, Mitt Romney won the independents going
away -- it wasn't even close -- and that used to be the rubric. That
used to be what you had to do.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/04/jeb_bush_falls_for_old_trick
And, ladies and gentlemen, I mentioned this, too, we had to edit some of this for time. The 2012 presidential race, Romney lost that race while winning the vast majority of independents. That's another trick that's played. You Republicans, you better win the independents, you don't have a chance. Well, he went out, he campaigned for the independents all right, and he got the vast majority of them, but four million of his own voters stayed home, four million! Four million Republicans stayed home. The people that vote Republican are tired of the Republican Party not listening.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/08/my_response_to_myself_as_the_news
However, Independents does not equal moderates. A lot of Conservatives over the last several years have been becoming Independents, and they don't consider themselves Republicans anymore. This is the main reason that according to exit polls that Romney won the Independent vote by 5% while losing the moderate vote by about 15%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
And I have already refuted Rush Limbaugh's false election analysis of Romney losing because four million "of 'em" stayed home.
http://brack-thethoughtsofchris.blogspot.com/2014/04/rush-limbaugh-is-wrong-on-why-romney.html
http://brack-thethoughtsofchris.blogspot.com/2014/12/rush-limbaugh-continues-to-be-wrong-on.html
Tuesday, December 9, 2014
Friday, December 5, 2014
Rush Limbaugh Continues to be Wrong on why Romney lost the Presidential election
Rush Limbaugh is still falsely claiming on his radio show that the reason why Mitt Romney lost the Presidential election is because "four million Republicans stayed home" during that election.
Here are more of these clips about this from his radio show:
That's not why. People are looking at this the wrong way. Mitt Romney is a fine man. Mitt Romney may be one of the most decent people you'll ever run into. But folks, with the economy as bad as it was, with Obamacare ticking time bomb that it was, if the Republicans nominate somebody that forced four million Republicans to sit home and not vote in this climate, why in the world are they thinking of doing it again?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/08/04/no_mitt_romney_can_t_win_this_time
Now, you know, you people do not make this easy. But I must respond honestly, truthfully, and straightforwardly. I don't understand the Romney rerun. He lost. He lost quite handily. And he lost not because of abortion. He didn't lose because of contraception. He didn't lose because of Bain Capital. He lost because of Romneycare. He lost because of a bunch of blue-collar Democrats chose to stay with B. Hussein O., and he lost because four million Republicans who had voted in 2008 decided not to in 2012. I've seen a number of different analyses, that if those four million Republicans had showed up, that Romney would be president.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/08/29/caller_solves_mitt_romney_s_problems
Four million Republicans who voted in '08 didn't vote in 2012, and had they, Romney would have been elected. I don't care what you think of Romney, he would have been much better than what we've got. Without question. I mean, that's not even up for debate. But you're not gonna show 'em a lesson. They're not gonna get that. That's not what's gonna change their minds.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/09/18/voting_democrat_won_t_teach_gop_a_lesson
"To give you an idea how bad it is for Republicans, they're talking about Romney again. Now, I love Mitt Romney as a human being. Mitt Romney is just one of the most decent guys you'll ever run into. Unfortunately, he's demonstrated two things: That four million Republicans will not vote for him and stay home instead, and that he can lose."
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/10/20/pearls_of_wisdom
If the Republican Party does something in the wrong way, they're gonna force 24 million people to sit home, not four. And they're never gonna win a thing. You can black vote, female vote all you want, but they're never gonna win diddly-squat. I mean, they already lost four million voters in 2012 from 2008, four million who voted for McCain didn't vote for Romney, up for grabs as to why, bunch of different theories, but if that four million becomes five, 10, 15, 24 million, you can write off whatever else the Democrats do, it isn't gonna matter. I think that just really irritates, that fact, a lot of moderate or liberal Republicans who wish it weren't the case.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/10/22/mark_cuban_s_advice_for_the_gop
"You need me because I am uniquely qualified, I'm uniquely capable, I'm uniquely talented to show independents why you're the man. So a candidate would be presented with a campaign that took the base for granted, and it was aimed at independents (i.e., moderates) or even liberals. Is it any wonder Republican candidates would lose in that scenario, because what happened is, the base was taken for granted, and as is the case in 2012, four million of 'em stayed home and didn't vote for Romney.
I don't know if it's because they were angry at being taken for granted and decided to teach a lesson, or if they were just unenthused by the Romney candidacy. It could have been a combination of many things. But the bottom line is, four million members of the Republican base didn't vote. It didn't matter. Romney did win the independents. Do you remember this? In 2012, Mitt Romney won the independents going away -- it wasn't even close -- and that used to be the rubric. That used to be what you had to do.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/04/jeb_bush_falls_for_old_trick
In 2010 the Democrats got shellacked in the midterm elections. Now, follow me on this. In 2010 the Democrats got shellacked. They lost 700 seats down the ballot. House, Senate, statehouse, governorship, down to local town and council, all those races, 700 seats. The Republicans would have won the presidency in 2012 if four million of their voters had not decided to stay home. In 2014, the Democrats get shellacked again. So in 2010 and 2014 the Democrats have lost over 1,300 seats, over a thousand seats at least. It's a disaster what's happened.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/05/trent_lott_blames_your_beloved_host_for_killing_amnesty_in_2007
Here are again the certified official election results from the Federal Election Commission from the last three Presidential elections:
2012 - Barack Obama (Democrat) --- 65,915,796 - 51.06%
2012 - Mitt Romney (Republican) ---- 60,933,500 - 47.20%
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2012/federalelections2012.pdf
2008 - Barack Obama (Democrat) --- 69,498,516 - 52.93%
2008 - John McCain (Republican) ---- 59,948,323 - 45.65%
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2008/federalelections2008.pdf
2004 - John F. Kerry (Democrat) ------ 59,028,444 - 48.27%
2004 - George W. Bush (Republican) --- 62,040,610 - 50.73%
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2004/federalelections2004.pdf
And here are the 2012, 2008, and 2004 Presidential election results from these five battleground States:
Colorado:
2012 Obama - 1,323,102
2008 Obama - 1,288,633
2012 Romney - 1,185,243
2008 McCain -- 1,073,629
2004 Bush ----- 1,101,255
Iowa:
2012 Obama -- 822,544
2008 Obama -- 828,940
2012 Romney - 730,617
2008 McCain -- 682,379
2004 Bush ----- 751,957
Nevada:
2012 Obama -- 531,373
2008 Obama -- 533,736
2012 Romney - 463,567
2008 McCain -- 412,827
2004 Bush ----- 418,690
North Carolina:
2012 Obama -- 2,178,391
2008 Obama -- 2,142,651
2012 Romney - 2,270,395
2008 McCain -- 2,128,474
2004 Bush ----- 1,961,166
Virginia:
2012 Obama -- 1,971,820
2008 Obama -- 1,959,532
2012 Romney - 1,822,522
2008 McCain -- 1,725,005
2004 Bush ----- 1,716,959
Romney got more votes in the battleground States of North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada than what both McCain in 2008 and Bush 43 in 2004 got in those four States. Romney did get 21,340 less votes in Iowa than what Bush 43 got there, but Romney got 48,238 more votes in Iowa than what McCain got there. Romney ended up winning the swing State of North Carolina while Obama won the swing States of Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada.
Here are more of these clips about this from his radio show:
That's not why. People are looking at this the wrong way. Mitt Romney is a fine man. Mitt Romney may be one of the most decent people you'll ever run into. But folks, with the economy as bad as it was, with Obamacare ticking time bomb that it was, if the Republicans nominate somebody that forced four million Republicans to sit home and not vote in this climate, why in the world are they thinking of doing it again?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/08/04/no_mitt_romney_can_t_win_this_time
Now, you know, you people do not make this easy. But I must respond honestly, truthfully, and straightforwardly. I don't understand the Romney rerun. He lost. He lost quite handily. And he lost not because of abortion. He didn't lose because of contraception. He didn't lose because of Bain Capital. He lost because of Romneycare. He lost because of a bunch of blue-collar Democrats chose to stay with B. Hussein O., and he lost because four million Republicans who had voted in 2008 decided not to in 2012. I've seen a number of different analyses, that if those four million Republicans had showed up, that Romney would be president.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/08/29/caller_solves_mitt_romney_s_problems
Four million Republicans who voted in '08 didn't vote in 2012, and had they, Romney would have been elected. I don't care what you think of Romney, he would have been much better than what we've got. Without question. I mean, that's not even up for debate. But you're not gonna show 'em a lesson. They're not gonna get that. That's not what's gonna change their minds.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/09/18/voting_democrat_won_t_teach_gop_a_lesson
"To give you an idea how bad it is for Republicans, they're talking about Romney again. Now, I love Mitt Romney as a human being. Mitt Romney is just one of the most decent guys you'll ever run into. Unfortunately, he's demonstrated two things: That four million Republicans will not vote for him and stay home instead, and that he can lose."
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/10/20/pearls_of_wisdom
If the Republican Party does something in the wrong way, they're gonna force 24 million people to sit home, not four. And they're never gonna win a thing. You can black vote, female vote all you want, but they're never gonna win diddly-squat. I mean, they already lost four million voters in 2012 from 2008, four million who voted for McCain didn't vote for Romney, up for grabs as to why, bunch of different theories, but if that four million becomes five, 10, 15, 24 million, you can write off whatever else the Democrats do, it isn't gonna matter. I think that just really irritates, that fact, a lot of moderate or liberal Republicans who wish it weren't the case.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/10/22/mark_cuban_s_advice_for_the_gop
"You need me because I am uniquely qualified, I'm uniquely capable, I'm uniquely talented to show independents why you're the man. So a candidate would be presented with a campaign that took the base for granted, and it was aimed at independents (i.e., moderates) or even liberals. Is it any wonder Republican candidates would lose in that scenario, because what happened is, the base was taken for granted, and as is the case in 2012, four million of 'em stayed home and didn't vote for Romney.
I don't know if it's because they were angry at being taken for granted and decided to teach a lesson, or if they were just unenthused by the Romney candidacy. It could have been a combination of many things. But the bottom line is, four million members of the Republican base didn't vote. It didn't matter. Romney did win the independents. Do you remember this? In 2012, Mitt Romney won the independents going away -- it wasn't even close -- and that used to be the rubric. That used to be what you had to do.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/04/jeb_bush_falls_for_old_trick
In 2010 the Democrats got shellacked in the midterm elections. Now, follow me on this. In 2010 the Democrats got shellacked. They lost 700 seats down the ballot. House, Senate, statehouse, governorship, down to local town and council, all those races, 700 seats. The Republicans would have won the presidency in 2012 if four million of their voters had not decided to stay home. In 2014, the Democrats get shellacked again. So in 2010 and 2014 the Democrats have lost over 1,300 seats, over a thousand seats at least. It's a disaster what's happened.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/05/trent_lott_blames_your_beloved_host_for_killing_amnesty_in_2007
Here are again the certified official election results from the Federal Election Commission from the last three Presidential elections:
2012 - Barack Obama (Democrat) --- 65,915,796 - 51.06%
2012 - Mitt Romney (Republican) ---- 60,933,500 - 47.20%
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2012/federalelections2012.pdf
2008 - Barack Obama (Democrat) --- 69,498,516 - 52.93%
2008 - John McCain (Republican) ---- 59,948,323 - 45.65%
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2008/federalelections2008.pdf
2004 - John F. Kerry (Democrat) ------ 59,028,444 - 48.27%
2004 - George W. Bush (Republican) --- 62,040,610 - 50.73%
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2004/federalelections2004.pdf
And here are the 2012, 2008, and 2004 Presidential election results from these five battleground States:
Colorado:
2012 Obama - 1,323,102
2008 Obama - 1,288,633
2012 Romney - 1,185,243
2008 McCain -- 1,073,629
2004 Bush ----- 1,101,255
Iowa:
2012 Obama -- 822,544
2008 Obama -- 828,940
2012 Romney - 730,617
2008 McCain -- 682,379
2004 Bush ----- 751,957
Nevada:
2012 Obama -- 531,373
2008 Obama -- 533,736
2012 Romney - 463,567
2008 McCain -- 412,827
2004 Bush ----- 418,690
North Carolina:
2012 Obama -- 2,178,391
2008 Obama -- 2,142,651
2012 Romney - 2,270,395
2008 McCain -- 2,128,474
2004 Bush ----- 1,961,166
Virginia:
2012 Obama -- 1,971,820
2008 Obama -- 1,959,532
2012 Romney - 1,822,522
2008 McCain -- 1,725,005
2004 Bush ----- 1,716,959
Romney got more votes in the battleground States of North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada than what both McCain in 2008 and Bush 43 in 2004 got in those four States. Romney did get 21,340 less votes in Iowa than what Bush 43 got there, but Romney got 48,238 more votes in Iowa than what McCain got there. Romney ended up winning the swing State of North Carolina while Obama won the swing States of Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada.
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